12-08-2021 TSC Meeting Minutes

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LF Staff:  LJ Illuzzi

Agenda

• LF Antitrust Policy

• Meeting note taker

• Welcome to new attendees

• Private Enterprise Number (PEN) Request for L3AF- LF Legal gave the ok to proceed. Next steps?

• Developer and Testing Forum in January 2022 (virtual event)

  • Topic submission- L3AF: eBPF for Windows and Cross Platform eBPF programs - thank you Daniel and Poorna!

  • Any others?

• Update on PM Housekeeping:
  • Email reminder to add agenda items to be sent every Monday via mailing list calendar
  • Template button - Click to create agenda topics.
  • Add agenda for next meeting during current meeting under "Future Agenda Items".
  • Holiday schedule:
    • Meetings on Dec. 8, 15
    • Dec. 22 and 29th to be canceled
    • Jan 5th: Developer and Testing Forum Prep.

• General Topics (cover as needed)

  • Use Cases

  • Roadmap

  • Project structure

    • Governance

    • Technical Steering Committee

Minutes/Updates

• Abhi Patel: Where is the L3AF project at currently? (high level overview)
  • Orchestration across any eBPF platform in order to solve business problems
  • L3AFd which runs on any host.
  • Many eBPF programs - see wiki
  • Create marketplace/repo of eBPF programs
  • Simplify chaining of eBPF programs
  • extend eBPF programs to Kubernetes
• Abhi P:
  • Targeting DDOS programs
  • Lead for DDOS initirive
    • Peloton labs and Georgia tech working on their project
• Karan: More details on the and use case yo move forward

• General Topics (cover as needed)

  • Use Cases
  • eBPF program (soon to be open sourced)
    • export records in IBPF format
    • Enterprise number will be needed for this

    • Dave T: eBPF programs that will be put into marketplace

      • L3AF could include signed programs
      • samples
      • Include other programs that are not signed by L3AF
    • Is L3AF a framework for marketplace?
    • Viccky B: Peel off marketplace from L3AF?
      • Handled by different team that works with L3AF so it can support different project such as Polycube 
    • Dave T: Is the PEN for L3AF
    • Karan: L3AF team is contributing programs and that is what the PEN is for.
  • Jason: Agree with Dave, be careful with diluting L3AF
    • Wallmart added programs should not be natively part of L3AF itself, but rather the Wallmart contribution to L3AF
  • Dave T: Could you use a Wallmart PEN and contribute that to L3AF?
  • Karan: Once the eBPF program is OSSed then we should use the Wallmart PEN and it should be under the LFN
    • What kind of signing are we looking for?
      • Verification that the eBPF programs are compatible with the L3AF platform
        • For instance chaining.
        • Need deeper dive.
  • Dave T:

  • Roadmap

  • Project structure

    • Governance

    • Technical Steering Committee

Action Items

Future Agenda Items

***** Minutes from previous call *****

• Polycube - Yunsong Lu representing
  • Polycube is specific to Networking
  • eBPF replace iptables → *this would be more crossplatform than current iptables designs
  • eBPF Network Functions - 2010 PhD dissertation: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9340283
  • Challenges - scale and rapid change in Linux kernel
  • Kenny Paul: Where is Polycube used in production?
    • No open information.
    • Driven by developers in iovisor - not product tested.
    • Apache license
  • Presentation posted on L3AF Wiki page
  • Yunsong:L 3AF code shares same goal as Polycube. What is the target market for L3AF? Long term goal?
    • BrianM: L3AF - general purpose platform for orchestrating and running eBPF programs. Big driver is production features@ Wallmart. Kernel function marketplace, etc.
  • DanielH: Can we switch from GPL to MIT licensing to make the code cross-platform with OSes like Windows and Apple?
• Developer and Testing Forum
  • L3AF has placeholder but doesn't have topics yet.
  • eBPF for Windows topic is apropos
    • @Daniel to ask @Dave about this: 2022 LFN Developer Event Topics January
      
      • 30-60 mins
• Housekeeping:
  • Email reminder on Mondays or Friday to add agenda items.
  • Template button - Click to create agenda topics.
  • Add agenda for next meeting during current meeting.
  • Holiday schedule:
    • Meetings on Dec. 8, 15
    • Dec. 22 and 29th canceled
    • Jan 5th: Developer and Testing Forum Prep.