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2021-06-02 TAC Minutes

2021-06-02 TAC Minutes

Attendees & Representation (default sort: member first name)

TAC Members and Project representatives should mark their attendance below 
Non-TAC project reps do not count towards meeting quorum

X = Present | P = Proxy  (Indicate in the table with @name for @name

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@Alex Vul (Deactivated)

ODIM (sandbox)



@Ed Warnicke

FD.io (TAC)



@Morgan Richomme

Orange



@Al Morton

Anuket (TAC)



@Eyal Felstaine

Amdocs



@Olaf Renner

Nokia



@Anil Guntupalli 

Verizon



@Frank Brockners 

Cisco





TF (incubation)



@Anil Kapur 

Juniper



@djhunt 

IBM



@Ramesh Nagarajan

Google



@FREEMAN, BRIAN D

AT&T



@Kalyankumar Asangi

Huawei



@Ranny Haiby 

Samsung



@cl664y@att.com - proxy: @Timo Perala

ONAP (TAC)



@Lingli Deng 

China Mobile



@Robert Varga

ODL (TAC)



@ChangJin Wang

ZTE



@Marc Fiedler 

Deutsche Telekom



@Timothy Verrall (Deactivated) 

Intel



@Christian Olrog Atlassian

Ericsson



@Martin Jackson

Walmart



@thomas nadeau 

Red Hat



@Dhananjay Pavgi 

Tech Mahindra



@Mike Lazar

OPX (sandbox)



@Xiaojun Xie

China Telecom















@Qihui Zhao

XGVela (sandbox)



LF Staff: @Kenny Paul@Casey Cain@LJ Illuzzi, @Brandon Wick@Jim Baker

Others: @Amy Zwarico@Nicholas Karimi, @Tina Tsou (Deactivated)

Agenda

  • Start the Recording

  • We will start by mentioning the project's Antitrust Policy, which you can find linked from the LF and project websites. The policy is important where multiple companies, including potential industry competitors, are participating in meetings. Please review and if you have any questions, please contact your company legal counsel. Members of the LF may contact Andrew Updegrove at the firm Gesmer Updegrove LLP, which provides legal counsel to the LF.

  • Roll Call  Today's Quorum == 7

  • Action Items Review

  • Agenda Bashing

  • General Topics

    • Developer & Testing Forum Update 

    • Introduction of Committer Representative to the TAC @Amy Zwarico

    • TAC attendance at TSC meetings

    • Committer representative election mechanics 

      • Discussion: how to resolve communities that have different voting populations for different classes in a TSC?  Community picks which voting class or take the broadest class. 

      • VOTE:   For the committer representative election, the eligible voter population for each community will match that community's voting population for their TSC elections.

    • Whitepaper updates @Ranny Haiby

    • LFN-wide security - discussion @Ranny Haiby @Amy Zwarico

  • Any Other Topics

Minutes

Introduction of @Amy Zwarico

  • Active in SECCOM.Policy, and Integration team in ONAP

  • Representing the concerns of the committers to the GB

  • during introductions @Casey Cain noted that TF rep has left the community and a new TAC rep has not been selected yet.

Developer & Testing Forum

TAC members attending TSC meetings

  • Intent: Get TAC members to attend the project TSC meetings that are not a part of the daily working routine to gain more perspective

  • @Casey CainTo share out the meeting schedules for all the TSC meetings to facilitate TAC member drop-ins

LFN-wide Security

  • @Ranny Haiby On-going need for security best practice exchange for all LFN projects

    • Perhaps a forum for on-going dialogue on security topics?

    • Informal engagements - not a requirements generation body

    • Also need a unified LFN messaging about security

  • @Amy Zwarico Great idea - ONAP experience has given some best practices

    • Security includes additional work for all project teams

    • Getting LFN wide approaches to security would be useful

    • Security requirements are a part of every release

    • Some interdependencies between projects exist - so uniform approaches are important (eg. ONAP and ODL)

    • EVERY component of ONAP pulls in other upstream code - many external dependencies

  • @FREEMAN, BRIAN D SolarWinds was a supply chain attack - so treating all the attack surfaces and supply chain is essential

    • A TAC recommendation would be useful to help establish the minimum acceptable

    • The component list is long: MariaDB, K8s, etc. - all have extensive SW BOM 

  • Next Steps

    • Proposal: Start with a mailing list and wiki space for sharing security tools/processes

    • @Morgan Richomme A TAC recommendation on basics would be useful

      • Build/publish docker containers should be more automated with more scanners as provided by LF IT

      • Claiming security when not being thorough is worse than not claiming/doing anything.

Committer representative election mechanics

  • How to enable communities that have different structures than just committers/contributors?

  • Proposal: Each community provides the list of eligible voters for the committer representative election

  • RESOLVED: The TAC agrees that the eligible voter population for the Committer Representative shall match that community's voting population for their TSC General Elections.

  • Feedback:

    • @Al MortonEmail discussion was supportive of community designated voter population

    • @Ranny Haiby No perfect solution - error on the side on inclusivity 

    • @djhunt Agree allow communities to designate the voter pool per community

    • @djhunt Multiple voting populations should be MORE inclusive (use the largest population)

    • @FREEMAN, BRIAN D If they can vote for TSC members - then they can vote for the committer representative

    • @Kenny Paul ONAP and Anuket have broad inclusion in elections. ODL TSC has two classes: committers AND active community members. FD.io - no data

    • @FREEMAN, BRIAN DAll populations that can vote for general TSC seats, also can vote for the committer representative

Action items

@Kenny Paul create lfn-security list Jun 4, 2021 
@Ranny Haiby create LFN security space on wiki Jun 16, 2021