2019-10-25 Infra-WG Meeting notes

Date

Oct 25, 2019

Attendees

LF Staff: @Casey Cain @Trevor Bramwell @Steve Ira @Andrew Grimberg @Trishan de Lanerolle @Jessica Gonzalez @Daniel Takamori
Community Members: @Olaf Renner @Alexis de Talhouët @FREEMAN, BRIAN D @ChrisC @Former user (Deleted) @Abhijit K @djhunt

Agenda

• Start the Recording

• Antitrust Policy

• Agenda Bashing (Roll Call, Action Items (5 minutes)

• General Topics

  • Current State of the Infra WG

    • Feature Comparison

Minutes

Overview

• @Casey Cain stated that he thought that the best way to start would be to have a discussion about the current state of SaaS CI/CD and feature comparison.

• @Trevor Bramwell presented a deck that he prepared that highlights a number of features and their per-platform comparison. 

• @Casey Cain noted that there is a minimal cost differential.  In some cases it's negligible.  ONAP would likely see the most benefit from a cost comparison.  OpenDaylight would likely see the most benefit from a technical comparison.

• @FREEMAN, BRIAN D suggested that the communities develop an action plan for what it would take to migrate to a new platform and its impact on the community.

  • It may take some trial and error to build out this data.

  • Suggestions were made to find a way to implement an incremental migration plan if possible

  • Projects should identify stakeholders and build expertise and prototyping.  e.g. In ONAP, what happens with Gerrit or JJB if we move to Gitlab.

Other Considerations Discussed

• There is the consideration of younger developers' preference for engaging in projects using newer tooling like Gitlab-CI

• Steve Ira noted that if all projects agreed to migrate to a single pipeline that the LF would have additional leverage for negotiating contracts and costs. Particularly with Microsoft services.

  • Decisions should still be based on criteria like features and effort,

  • LF will need to build out support for the toolchain which they are currently developing.

  • Could simplify support and services which could improve community collaboration.

• @FREEMAN, BRIAN D noted that there also build requirements for multi-CPU environments.

• @FREEMAN, BRIAN D also wanted to know how SSO would work and if we could be able to integrate LF-Identity logins.

  • @Trevor Bramwell explained that Gitlab-CI can use Github logins, but most SaaS CI/CD services don't support Enterprise logins.  They require that you host the service yourself.  We would likely need to have a separate login for SaaS.

• Steve suggested that OPNFV is probably the best project for early adoption despite the effort. 

Next Steps

• Start a doodle poll for kicking off the next meeting which should take place in the first week of December.

• The PM and Community Representatives to review the features and start building out a list of requirements, features and community considerations.

Action items