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2020-07-29 TAC Minutes

2020-07-29 TAC Minutes

Owned by Casey Cain
Last updated: Jul 29, 2020
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@Abhijit K

ODL 

X

@Ed Warnicke

FD.io



@Prabhjot Singh Sethi

TF (incubation)



@Al Morton

OPNFV

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@Eyal Felstaine

Amdocs



@Ranny Haiby 

Samsung

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@Anil Guntupalli

Verizon



@Frank Brockners 

Cisco

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@Timothy Verrall (Deactivated) 

Intel

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@FREEMAN, BRIAN D

AT&T

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@djhunt 

IBM



@thomas nadeau 

Red Hat



@cl664y@att.com

ONAP



@Lingli Deng 

China Mobile



TBD

Juniper



@ChangJin Wang

ZTE



@Marc Fiedler 

Deutsche Telekom



@Kalyankumar Asangi

Huawei



@Christian Olrog Atlassian

Ericsson



@Mike Lazar

OPX (sandbox)

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@Xiaojun Xie

China Telecom



@Davide Cherubini

Vodafone

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@Morgan Richomme

Orange









@David Sauvageau

Bell Canada



@Oguzhan Ceylan 

Türk Telekom

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@Dhananjay Pavgi 

Tech Mahindra



@Olaf Renner

Nokia



TBD

VMware



LF Staff: @Casey Cain@Kenny Paul @Brandon Wick , @Trevor Bramwell, @Jim Baker

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Agenda

  • Start the Recording

  • Show the Antitrust Policy

  • Roll Call

  • Action Items Review

  • Agenda Bashing

  • General Topics

    • Virtual Technical Event Planning for ONES, Technical Meetings, and 2021 Planning

    • LFN Scaleability

  • Any Other Topics

Minutes

LFN Scaleability

  • @djhunt talked about the inbound project pipeline for LFN and how Linux Foundation Networking would scale to support those projects.

    • How do we grow the LFN to make it a multi-project umbrella and what does it mean to be a member of the umbrella?

    • How do we manage expectations of resources and funding? 

  • @FREEMAN, BRIAN D Does the board recognize that if we add more projects, we have less funding for the other projects?

    • Do we have our membership fees go up by 5% if we add a new project?

    • Membership is not necessarily growing for new projects who join

    • @Ranny Haiby suggested that there may be an expectation from LF leadership that the number of projects may grow but not necessarily the overall budget.

      • There may be a scenario where projects mature they would require less resources.

      • @FREEMAN, BRIAN D How would that work?  I don't think that scales for all projects.

        • We should be making sure that the projects are not just shifting from one project to another and that there is a sufficient amount of development resources assigned to each project.  There has been a trend of as new projects come online we lose developers on another project.

    • @djhunt In general, we need to find a way to be more efficient, and clear about where and how we will apply resources. 

  • @Kenny Paul As a point of reference in general the LFN provides a more high-touch availability of resources (both infrastructure and project management support) than other projects in the LF spectrum.   Also this is highly likely be a topic of discussion at the Aug 19, 2020 Governing Board meeting.

  • @Jim Baker shared a WIP document on the service level proposal for Project membership tiers

    • each tier provides additional level of services

    • one school of thought that projects should receive more staff support up front and have that tail off as the projects move up the tree versus getting more support.

  • Lifecycle doc will ultimately need to be updated to reflect not only Project maturity, but also service levels

  • @Ranny Haiby believes that projects can step up and reduce the high-touch requirements of staff.

  • @Jim Baker provided the example of LFAI which has more that a dozen highly active capital "P" Projects and only a single LF staff project manager serving all of them because the projects are far more self-staffed, versus LFN which has 5 project managers plus a release manager supporting 6 highly active Projects.

Jason noted that he and Ranny were on vacation next week and will not be able to attend the SPC call.  PMs will work with @Davide Cherubinito coordinate the details of that meeting back to the TAC.

Virtual Technical Event Planning for ONES, Technical Meetings, and 2021 Planning

  • @Casey Cain talked about the need to start planning for ONES, and the 2020 Technical Meetings.  We also need to take a look at what 2021 will look like.

    • It's likely that events will remain virtual for the first half of 2021.

    • Asks that if you have an interest in participating in coordinating and planning committee, please join the mailing list.

  • @Brandon Wick talked briefly about ONES and the upcoming technical events.

  • ONES Sep 28, 2020 -  Sep 30, 2020 

    • Using a virtual events tool called INXPO for hosting the event (same as Open Source summit NA). All talks will be pre-recorded with live Q&A

    • Will not include an unconference track or ONIF networking event. We found that holding these types of forums are not optimal in a virtual event. 

    • Events team decided to make this event 3 days (vs. 2 days), shift to an EST time zone for the event to capture a broader audience, and shorten the day length to ease the burden of participation.  

  • Technical Events

    • We do not plan to hold the 2-day LFN Technical Meetings during the same week as ONES because it could be a bit draining to attend ONES and the Technical Meetings back to back all week.

    • After checking the holidays and industry events schedule, the LF events team and the LFN staff are recommending Oct 13, 2020 & Oct 14, 2020 

  • @djhunt asks that the PMs coordinate with their communities to participate in the event planning committees.

Action items